sweetholyjesus

Keep it simple. If you worked at the same company for 15-20 years making 100 hours per month, and suddenly your hours got cut to 75 per month, it is unreasonable to tell someone they were living outside of their means when they had a reasonable expectation to be able to make 85-100 hours per month... If squib and company want to work as little as possible because they have no kids, mortgage, and probably live with their parents, that is certainly their choice.

flyguy19348

So they violated the contract and paid you less than 100 hours? I have misunderstood what the guarantee was then.
Thanks for correcting me and clearing this up. I was thinking that 75 hours was what you were promised, if you made more you were fortunate and that was your choice. I now understand anything less than 100 hours is a pay cut. It would be simpler if they put 100 as the guarantee . You are wise men and have shown me the light.

BobbyHo

And you are an ass


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sweetholyjesus

Like bobbyho said, you are an ass. Where the heck did I say anything about violating the contract???????

All I said was there can be a reasonable expectation to make more than min guarantee if you have been doing so for the last 15-20 years.....Does that not make sense to you? Do you understand that it's not mismanaging money if your financial plans are based on what hours you've been working for the last decade? Of course sudden changes can happen, and I'm sure people are prepared for it. But that doesn't mean they aren't allowed to be upset about losing money.....

Name User

It's the same play they did with CommutAir. I would at least suspect it, and it was what I was imagining when I heard the rumor of a UAL tie up. They are probably going the route of AA using their WOs as feedstock for hiring plans at mainline.

If so I would suspect additional aircraft to AWAC from other carriers (XJT) as they build up their version of the WOs similar to what AA did with Piedmont and PSA. The way you poach pilots is to offer a fast upgrade and rapidly expanding seniority list. IMO the resigning of 65 airplanes wont move the needle a whole lot on AWAC recruitment efforts despite their $33k 'bonus'.

Unless the independent regional carriers can sign with Frontier, Spirit etc. my guess is they will be shrinking. The legacies won't want to pay more for their pilots because it means they would also be supporting the flying of the other carriers.

BobbyHo

Well, at least the Internet forum can be a vent for this guys miserable life and attitude instead of taking it out on his poor mother when he returns home to the basement. God knows he'll be home all 3 days off because he only likes making guarantee....

I feel like this argumentative bad attitude type is unfortunately more common at zw these days as the hiring standards have plummeted to only requiring a pulse. There's a lot of guys here these days that never would have been hired a few years back.


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Paid2fly

Don't worry, his trolling will continue(unless his mom kicks him out of her basement).

Grumbletrousers

So I did some digging in the United operations and scope clause and found that they are already maxed out on their 70/76 seat regional operation at 255 aircraft from Skywest, GoJet, Mesa, and Republic. Meanwhile their 50 seat scope clause maxes out at 90% of their narrow-body mainline fleet at 508 (90% of their total of 565 as of today). Totaling up their 50 seat operation pre-Willy is 279, 344 after. Which leaves 164 additional 50 seaters to max out their scope clause if no other companies roll back their operations.

As much as people say the 50 seat market is dying, looking at those numbers it seems the only way United can expand their regional operation is by adding 50 seaters. From what I've gathered looking at all the press releases from United it looks as though they're trying to cut back on spending yet increase their capacity and flying. The best way to do that would be to outsource your flying for cheaper to the regionals.

And since you're scoped out on the 70/76 seaters, why not run more 50 seaters with greater frequency which gives customers better flexibility to their schedules?

According to the email it looks as though our operation for American is over barring some last minute desperation from Parker. If that's the case, we would be the largest sole regional operator at United, the other being CommutAir. So if United really wants to put the hurt on Delta, American and Alaska, why not build up your two operators which solely fly for you?

Perhaps it's also coincidence but CommutAir is majority owned by Champlain Enterprises LLC. Meanwhile we just filed to change from a Corporation to an LLC. Maybe this was done to prepare for a merger or acquisition to become wholly owns the same way American did with PSA and Piedmont? Or maybe it was because it was for limited liability and tax loopholes, all speculation but interesting nevertheless.

I don't know any more than anyone here but personally I think we're in a good place here and we have a good future, with a great chance to expand and grow our company and fleet if staffing allows.Everyone here needs to lighten the **** up.

salvador5266

I just read an article on united newsroom. The 3 of the 4 cities that Kirby specifically mentioned start up June 8.

el jefe

AWAC always said they wanted to be the premier 50 seat/CRJ 200 operator.

If it's true that United has room to max out there 50 Seaters, and that's what Air Wisconsin does best...


Then we have a bright future flying clapped out, dirty, uncomfortable airplanes for United!


Plus, put all first class on a 175 and that's around 50 seats, right? We can dream.