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Old 02-27-2017, 06:42 AM
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we'll I'll take my shots I was wrong, thats the airline industry. Anyways I'm glad no one is losing their job as I don't wish that upon anybody.

Congratulations on the big win.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:09 AM
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Congrats to you guys
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LongTimeListenr
Yea, lift they clearly didn't want...otherwise it would have been renewed.
Maybe, or they were waiting to see if their negotiating position improved, and positioned their wholly owned company's to absorb the work if a deal couldn't be reached. Why would AA want to negotiate with only one option? It's obvious that they started to beef up the WO carriers 3 years ago because AWAC was expensive, but since then their cost have been competitive, but AA isn't against putting the screws to a company without a contract.
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Old 02-27-2017, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Happyflyer
Maybe, or they were waiting to see if their negotiating position improved, and positioned their wholly owned company's to absorb the work if a deal couldn't be reached. Why would AA want to negotiate with only one option? It's obvious that they started to beef up the WO carriers 3 years ago because AWAC was expensive, but since then their cost have been competitive, but AA isn't against putting the screws to a company without a contract.
I would say it's very clear AA wants nothing to do with AWAC. Now they have AWAC out of PHL, and a rapidly growing PDT fills the gap. It's not negotiating with one option, it's beefing up a surefire solution. Seems way too convenient to have happened by chance of poor negotiation. And don't take that as a shot at you guys, it's not. Happy to see AWAC secure a future
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by StrykerB21
Uh huh. Did you read some company memo to verify all this or are you just putting pieces together in your own head.
"Elementary, my dear Watson."

Had Kirby not gone over to United from AA and shifted UALs focus to increasing profits on its domestic network I think AWAC would have been left out in the cold.

I'm glad it worked out for the AWAC crowd. It sure wasn't looking good there for a while. Congrats!
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Day4mx
Damn Billy. Wrong again.
Hey Billyho, could you please go into the Spirit thread and say they'll never get a contract? We could really use the help.

Congrats to the AWAC group. I'm very happy for all of you. What a great pilot group!
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Old 02-27-2017, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Ask squib...

I was right about that too. I'm on a roll
This guy again. Still can't let it go. Check it or don't, those were my words.
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Old 02-27-2017, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FLBusDrvr
Hey Billyho, could you please go into the Spirit thread and say they'll never get a contract? We could really use the help.

Congrats to the AWAC group. I'm very happy for all of you. What a great pilot group!
They still need a new contract right?
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Old 02-27-2017, 08:11 PM
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They still need a new contract right?
Remember when you said nobody would touch AWAC because they didn't have a contract ironed out between the pilot group and management????

Guess they didn't need to take concessions to gain new flying, unlike others that have in the not so distant past. Use your imagination on who I might be referring to.

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Old 02-27-2017, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spet
Remember when you said nobody would touch AWAC because they didn't have a contract ironed out between the pilot group and management????

Guess they didn't need to take concessions to gain new flying, unlike others that have in the not so distant past. Use your imagination on who I might be referring to.

Current (13+ year old) book is at the bottom of the list when it comes to other regional contracts. Of course there is no need to take concessions and somehow the last concessionary TA (from current book) almost passed.
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