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02-23-2017, 03:52 PM

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HighFlight

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Comparable to what, exactly?

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Originally Posted by SideFlare

They already announced pay increases and incentives/bonuses. Lots of fine print involved, but the pay is comparable. That said, the hole they've dug is so deep that even with a new flying contract it's going to be difficult to staff the airline. I guess we'll see.

02-23-2017, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeListenr

It's going to take more than just a deal to do some flying. The flood gates at the WOs didn't open until the management through serious coin at the new hires. Before the money showed up things were at a trickle...and that was a year ago.

Where did I say "just a deal?" I said "if they announce something worthwhile."

Deal, pay, flow, interviews, whatever combination of any, if any.

02-23-2017, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by squib

Your point of view has the right idea but you contradict yourself at the time. Is it a year or more or just a few months? At this point there is a still a year before the flying with AA ends so there's still plenty of time.

If they do announce something worthwhile in the next few days, weeks, months, it will potentially open the doors for a flood of new hires. Same thing that happened at PSA and PDT.

And as for AA suing AWAC, unlikely. They already do half the departures they did just a few months ago but there's no word of any lawsuits floating around.

When I said a few months, I meant when the AA flying ends, and there's a few months of zero flying while a new fleet or whatever else is brought online.

02-23-2017, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WakeWash

When I said a few months, I meant when the AA flying ends, and there's a few months of zero flying while a new fleet or whatever else is brought online.

Okay, again, that's still a year away. A lot happens in a year. I really doubt they are going to wait to announce anything, if there is anything to announce, the day AA flying ends.

02-23-2017, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by squib

Okay, again, that's still a year away. A lot happens in a year. I really doubt they are going to wait to announce anything, if there is anything to announce, the day AA flying ends.

I think you're missing the point. If there is a new carrier to fly for, for example, there will be a transition period where AWA will not be able to provide services for the new carrier until they finish their contract with the old carrier. Then, you must get the Opspecs realigned for the new carrier so you can service their airports etc. The airline will have to pay many of the employees to sit around during that time. Plus, you can't exactly fly UAL flights with AA painted A/C... Finally, much more sitting around time must be paid while you train the employees to operate an entirely different fleet, if that were to happen....

02-23-2017, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Happyflyer

I think Scot Kirby going to United was the single biggest thing that happened for AWAC, he loves RJ's and has canceled their 73 latest order to max out scope. We all know how this story ends, with AWAC getting a new CPA with United based on some contract concessions and new bonus money. At least the pilots will have a choice in the matter.

Can you expand on this?

02-24-2017, 05:46 AM

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Anyone notice the new logo on the CSS login page? Basically the same thing minus 'corporation'

02-24-2017, 06:13 AM

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WakeWash

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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus

This. Pretty much exactly what I was trying to say, but I guess he didn't understand the way I put it. I didn't say AWAC would wait till the AA flying was up. I actually said the opposite and said I really hope they announce something asap.

02-24-2017, 11:52 AM

#5129

whooooooocares

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anyone know exactly what day we need to be on property, or not turned in our resignation by date to be eligible for the may bonus. And will it be paid out on the 15. I am assuming it will be paid in a similar fashion to the one we received in Dec., that is, combined on the 15th check.

thanks