WhiskeyDelta

Did he say "I have a seat in the back" or something to that effect? If he didn't explicitly say he was DH'ing then he may have meant he had a non-rev seat initially and then was asked to take the JS to get a higher priority non-rev than you onto the flight. It may have even been another ZW employee. If this is the scenario that played out I'm sorry it happened to you but the senior CA did what he could to look out for his own.

mainlineAF

100% true with zero facts left out. He lived in the city where we were leaving out of. I know that for a fact. Agent calls me up to the podium and says will you take the next flight bc one of the deadheaders said he'd sit in the jump? Next flight was extremely late and I was worried it would cancel. I go talk to the deadheading crew, explain what the agent said to me and the FO is adamant they'd be in the cabin. CA says oh she asked if I'd sit in the jump. That's all he says. About this time operating CA comes up and we all chat and he's like we will make sure you get on. Cool.

They all go down. Operating CA comes back up 10 mins later and says you won't believe this but that deadheading CA doesn't have a seat and has the JS assigned to him. Apologized profusely and I say no prob I'll take the next one, hoping it wouldn't cancel.

Deadheading FO and operating CA were super cool. Nothing they could do about it. Every group has its 1% though.

Again, thanks for all the rides. Just want to remind guys not to take jump if you're deadheading, and if for some reason you feel inclined to just ask if there's another pilot trying to jumpseat.

mainlineAF

Gate agents asked him to take the jump and he volunteered.

mainlineAF

He was 100% deadheading. Refer to my other post.

mainlineAF

I'm very familiar with the situation you're talking about but he was most definitely deadheading. The agent and him both told me so.

squib

Apparently the operating CA wasn't "super cool." He could have said listen, "you are DHing so take your seat in the cabin while this guy gets the jumpseat."

His airplane, his jumpseat.

Sorry you got bumped.

WhiskeyDelta

In addition we are all familiar with some agents who think the JS is theirs to assign as they wish. It seems like none of the crew including the suspect senior CA chose to push back.

Sorry, mainlineAF, it does indeed appear to be that very rare occurrence by a ZW crew to drop the ball.


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squib

Exactly my thoughts. More and more times the gate agents act like they run the show. I don't know when the CA's authority/respect started to fade away but it's as if it's nearly the last in the chain of command most of the time these days.

Also the reason I said pieces may have been missing to the story is because AWAC guys usually do as much they can to get jumpseaters on. Really surprised by this situation. mainlineAF, contact your union rep if you haven't already.

sweetholyjesus

95% of the senior guys are great, especially the WI guys. But there are a couple crusty ones who get to drive to work and don't fully understand the struggle. I've only ever left one pilot behind (with a working jumpseat)...

StrykerB21

23 resignations and 1 retirement in the last 7 days. #nearermygodtothee