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#4581
#4582
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Well in that case I guess we all better hope that all AA Captains stay in good health as a good portion of the pilot group ages towards 65. If one becomes incapacitated, I'd be nervous if one of these FO's lacked the decision-making ability or airmanship to complete the flight safely.
#4583
Parker doesn't want anyone to stay at the WO's for more then 8 years. He said it and the reason being is he wants his WO's to stay cost effective. Piedmont was a VERY VERY senior airline. Even more senior then AWAC if you go by %'s. After the flow was started in just over one year Piedmont/PSA and soon ENVOY will continue to be junior airlines offering quick upgrades and a job at American while keep it's labor cost down. There just won't be many 15-25 year lifers at the WO's anymore. I'm sure over half of AWAC pilot group has more then 15 years.
You have to look at the WO's now as AAG's personal Triple A Farm Club. American has made it clear they want the operations at the WO's to even more mirror that of mainline.
Look at get it. You're mad because AWAC is going thru a hot mess right now and you see American handing out jobs to the WO pilots. I'd be hurt and upset also if I were you. However it's a two way street that benefits the WO's and at the same time the Stock Holders at AAG
You have to look at the WO's now as AAG's personal Triple A Farm Club. American has made it clear they want the operations at the WO's to even more mirror that of mainline.
Look at get it. You're mad because AWAC is going thru a hot mess right now and you see American handing out jobs to the WO pilots. I'd be hurt and upset also if I were you. However it's a two way street that benefits the WO's and at the same time the Stock Holders at AAG
#4584
Well in that case I guess we all better hope that all AA Captains stay in good health as a good portion of the pilot group ages towards 65. If one becomes incapacitated, I'd be nervous if one of these FO's lacked the decision-making ability or airmanship to complete the flight safely.
#4585
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 857
Parker doesn't want anyone to stay at the WO's for more then 8 years. He said it and the reason being is he wants his WO's to stay cost effective. Piedmont was a VERY VERY senior airline. Even more senior then AWAC if you go by %'s. After the flow was started in just over one year Piedmont/PSA and soon ENVOY will continue to be junior airlines offering quick upgrades and a job at American while keep it's labor cost down. There just won't be many 15-25 year lifers at the WO's anymore. I'm sure over half of AWAC pilot group has more then 15 years.
You have to look at the WO's now as AAG's personal Triple A Farm Club. American has made it clear they want the operations at the WO's to even more mirror that of mainline.
Look at get it. You're mad because AWAC is going thru a hot mess right now and you see American handing out jobs to the WO pilots. I'd be hurt and upset also if I were you. However it's a two way street that benefits the WO's and at the same time the Stock Holders at AAG.
You seem to worry a bunch about a Legacy that's not even on your list of places to go however.
You have to look at the WO's now as AAG's personal Triple A Farm Club. American has made it clear they want the operations at the WO's to even more mirror that of mainline.
Look at get it. You're mad because AWAC is going thru a hot mess right now and you see American handing out jobs to the WO pilots. I'd be hurt and upset also if I were you. However it's a two way street that benefits the WO's and at the same time the Stock Holders at AAG.
You seem to worry a bunch about a Legacy that's not even on your list of places to go however.
I understand your bias, but there's no need to defend the flow just because you couldn't get hired by a major without it.
#4586
This has absolutely nothing to do with anything I posted. Why did you change the subject? I don't care why American has decided not to interview its new hires...The simple fact is they are not getting the best applicants out of the flow. In fact, they are getting some of the worst. You can't deny that much.
I understand your bias, but there's no need to defend the flow just because you couldn't get hired by a major without it.
I understand your bias, but there's no need to defend the flow just because you couldn't get hired by a major without it.
I'm not defending the flow. It is what it is. The flow brings in Pilots with a big amount of experience.
You're right I had the benefit of the flow. What's your excuse?
#4587
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Posts: 857
Worst? Explain the worst? 14,000 hour pilots flying in the Northeast Corridor in some of the busiest airspace in old ragged out turbo props? Guys/Gals that did all that and never bent metal? You mean those worst. hahahahahahah
I'm not defending the flow. It is what it is. The flow brings in Pilots with a big amount of experience.
You're right I had the benefit of the flow. What's your excuse?
I'm not defending the flow. It is what it is. The flow brings in Pilots with a big amount of experience.
You're right I had the benefit of the flow. What's your excuse?
The flow is a great recruiting tool and a nice backup plan for pilots like yourself, but AA's flow isn't exactly designed to bring in the best of the best, is it? If there were at least some performance minimums required then I might say otherwise.
#4588
I already gave you examples of the worst. If you're going to ignore me billy then we can't have a conversation.
The flow is a great recruiting tool and a nice backup plan for pilots like yourself, but AA's flow isn't exactly designed to bring in the best of the best, is it? If there were at least some performance minimums required then I might say otherwise.
The flow is a great recruiting tool and a nice backup plan for pilots like yourself, but AA's flow isn't exactly designed to bring in the best of the best, is it? If there were at least some performance minimums required then I might say otherwise.
I think you'll be just fine. And I also think you'll discover this job is damn easy and there's those few handfuls that can only make it damn hard.
#4589
It's also designed so AA will have a bunch of beat down tired ex-regional guys who are just happy to be at a legacy and not at an AAG feeder getting their contract violated every other day on property when Parker comes sniffing around for a scope grab in 2020.
#4590
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 857
Seriously? If that's all you got then you should just stop now .. But I'll give you one more chance. Tell me, exactly what part of the flow prevents a guy from sitting right seat for 10 years, busting upgrade training and who knows how many other training events from flowing to American? If the worst of the worst can get in no-questions-asked, what does that say about the future of American's culture and pilot group?
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