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Old 01-01-2017, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Philly's favorite FO just left for PDT. This person was a frequent customer for the training department, and is literally unable to land the jet in a crosswind. I'm scared to death that this kid might wind up flowing into an airbus someday.
Don't worry. Airbus takes a great pilot and makes them good. It also takes a poor pilot and makes them good.
He'll be okay.
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Old 01-01-2017, 01:27 PM
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Don't worry. Airbus takes a great pilot and makes them good. It also takes a poor pilot and makes them good.
He'll be okay.
Except it's going to be 7-8 years before the guy sits in the right seat of an airbus, and meanwhile is going to be a Captain on something else prior.
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Old 01-01-2017, 01:42 PM
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Except it's going to be 7-8 years before the guy sits in the right seat of an airbus, and meanwhile is going to be a Captain on something else prior.
Well dang he should've just stay at AWAC then. I mean if he can't land in a crosswind why was he still at AWAC?
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Old 01-01-2017, 02:00 PM
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Well dang he should've just stay at AWAC then. I mean if he can't land in a crosswind why was he still at AWAC?
Because we're a union workforce and it's hard to fire people. And the captains here are highly experienced in the airplane (because it takes forever to upgrade) and have managed to keep the kid from hurting himself and others
He would not have upgraded at AWAC, he would have been the second name on the training department's list of lifer FOs. I would be shocked if he even decided to attempt upgrade training at PDT. He can just sit as an FO and continue to be babysat until he flows to mainline, as apparently others have done when they failed upgrade training. Scary stuff.
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Old 01-01-2017, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
Because we're a union workforce and it's hard to fire people. And the captains here are highly experienced in the airplane (because it takes forever to upgrade) and have managed to keep the kid from hurting himself and others
He would not have upgraded at AWAC, he would have been the second name on the training department's list of lifer FOs. I would be shocked if he even decided to attempt upgrade training at PDT. He can just sit as an FO and continue to be babysat until he flows to mainline, as apparently others have done when they failed upgrade training. Scary stuff.
Oh well. Look at the Brightside then you won't have to babysit him anymore. Now the problem will be trying to find someone to replace him. Good Luck with that.
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Old 01-01-2017, 02:23 PM
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Oh well. Look at the Brightside then you won't have to babysit him anymore. Now the problem will be trying to find someone to replace him. Good Luck with that.
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Old 01-01-2017, 02:38 PM
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Oh well. Look at the Brightside then you won't have to babysit him anymore. Now the problem will be trying to find someone to replace him. Good Luck with that.
I guess he'll be your problem before long! Good luck with that

Exactly why American is not even top 5 on my list. I can't imagine flying with someone that terrible for the rest of my career. Who knows how many like that are sneaking through the cracks with that no-questions-asked flow. I can only see that pilot group going downhill for the foreseeable future.
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:01 PM
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I can only see that pilot group going downhill for the foreseeable future.
Maybe he realized AWAC would be going downhill much faster in the foreseeable future. Do you blame him?
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Exactly why American is not even top 5 on my list.
LOL, so you don't pick an Airline Based on QOL and pay? hahahaha good luck with that.
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Old 01-01-2017, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetholyjesus
I guess he'll be your problem before long! Good luck with that

Exactly why American is not even top 5 on my list. I can't imagine flying with someone that terrible for the rest of my career. Who knows how many like that are sneaking through the cracks with that no-questions-asked flow. I can only see that pilot group going downhill for the foreseeable future.
Not for nothing, but AA weeded out some of the problem children from Envoy after they flowed. Why would this pilot, if he's as bad as you say, escape from training unscathed?
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