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12-30-2016, 01:15 PM
#4531
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,222
To his/her defense, awac was not the lowest paid until the bonuses hit the wo's. Also, its not the same working for an airline who is owned by American as opposed to one who simply does feed for them.
Just because someone works at a gay bar, doesn't mean they are gay or love gay people more than anyone else. It was just the best job at the moment.
Just because someone works at a gay bar, doesn't mean they are gay or love gay people more than anyone else. It was just the best job at the moment.
. I can think of a bunch of companies that are a lot worse to work for over AA/US. In fact most of them.The people that downplay the job are those who are secretly envious.
12-30-2016, 01:33 PM
#4532
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Position: 6th place
Posts: 1,826
I was at AWAC eight years. Mainline is a completely different job. Never mind the 8 days of working long call reserve sitting at home while making $120k-$130k/yr, 16% 401k, the better hotels when you do work, the better equipment that generally doesn't even have a single MEL on it, drastically less work while you are on duty, etc. etc. Yeah, it's a horrible job, I kick myself for leaving AWAC every day I go to work . I can think of a bunch of companies that are a lot worse to work for over AA/US. In fact most of them.
The people that downplay the job are those who are secretly envious.
. I can think of a bunch of companies that are a lot worse to work for over AA/US. In fact most of them.The people that downplay the job are those who are secretly envious.
Yep. I'm far from an AA cheerleader but not applying to every legacy is just stupid and shortsighted.
12-30-2016, 02:02 PM
#4533
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 196
I was at AWAC eight years. Mainline is a completely different job. Never mind the 8 days of working long call reserve sitting at home while making $120k-$130k/yr, 16% 401k, the better hotels when you do work, the better equipment that generally doesn't even have a single MEL on it, drastically less work while you are on duty, etc. etc. Yeah, it's a horrible job, I kick myself for leaving AWAC every day I go to work . I can think of a bunch of companies that are a lot worse to work for over AA/US. In fact most of them.
The people that downplay the job are those who are secretly envious.
. I can think of a bunch of companies that are a lot worse to work for over AA/US. In fact most of them.The people that downplay the job are those who are secretly envious.
Thanks for that.
12-30-2016, 04:13 PM
#4536
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: RJ
Posts: 215
I was at AWAC eight years. Mainline is a completely different job. Never mind the 8 days of working long call reserve sitting at home while making $120k-$130k/yr, 16% 401k, the better hotels when you do work, the better equipment that generally doesn't even have a single MEL on it, drastically less work while you are on duty, etc. etc. Yeah, it's a horrible job, I kick myself for leaving AWAC every day I go to work . I can think of a bunch of companies that are a lot worse to work for over AA/US. In fact most of them.
The people that downplay the job are those who are secretly envious.
. I can think of a bunch of companies that are a lot worse to work for over AA/US. In fact most of them.The people that downplay the job are those who are secretly envious.
No but seriously, congrats on the job. If I would have gotten the opportunity back when US airways was doing the hiring I would have gone too. I am not denying the fact that AA mainline is a great place to be. For now. My opinions are just, those my own. Everyone is entitled to their own. With the wholly owned regionals attracting the I don't need a degree/ yeah what ever, I am flowing anyways crowd, I don't want to be there when 99% of the right seat are them and a great portion of the left seats are also.
When looking for a job I don't look at the money only. I look at culture and the company as a whole. No one is perfect, but what I see every day in and out of phl/dca/clt doesn't impress. I guess I don't view the airlines as the only thing that I'm willing and able to do in life.
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12-30-2016, 04:45 PM
#4537
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Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 237
All company-pilot contract negotiations have halted, and no one has any information or even rumors.
It does feel like something is brewing up in Appleton. Either way 31 pilots gone this month which means if they don't raise retention bonuses or announce something big, by about the beginning of summer flying we won't have the capacity to fulfill the contract.
Best case: we get a new long-term contract
Worse case: we announce closure which would place AWAC in 'distress' status which should help the more senior guys into the Majors and the junior guys into LLCs. It's not ideal but it's not another regional.
12-30-2016, 05:34 PM
#4538
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 482
It all seems odd. There's been an unsettling quiet among everyone from union and management I've talked to.
All company-pilot contract negotiations have halted, and no one has any information or even rumors.
It does feel like something is brewing up in Appleton. Either way 31 pilots gone this month which means if they don't raise retention bonuses or announce something big, by about the beginning of summer flying we won't have the capacity to fulfill the contract.
Best case: we get a new long-term contract
Worse case: we announce closure which would place AWAC in 'distress' status which should help the more senior guys into the Majors and the junior guys into LLCs. It's not ideal but it's not another regional.
All company-pilot contract negotiations have halted, and no one has any information or even rumors.
It does feel like something is brewing up in Appleton. Either way 31 pilots gone this month which means if they don't raise retention bonuses or announce something big, by about the beginning of summer flying we won't have the capacity to fulfill the contract.
Best case: we get a new long-term contract
Worse case: we announce closure which would place AWAC in 'distress' status which should help the more senior guys into the Majors and the junior guys into LLCs. It's not ideal but it's not another regional.
12-30-2016, 05:40 PM
#4539
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Position: Here and there
Posts: 1,906
Not sure if it's in the ALPA by-laws, but a failed carrier represented by ALPA typically gets some kind of favorable hiring preferences at other ALPA carriers. It's not a guaranteed job, or even interview, but it could help out getting ZW resumes higher in the stacks of a lot of HR departments.
12-30-2016, 05:49 PM
#4540
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 482
Not sure if it's in the ALPA by-laws, but a failed carrier represented by ALPA typically gets some kind of favorable hiring preferences at other ALPA carriers. It's not a guaranteed job, or even interview, but it could help out getting ZW resumes higher in the stacks of a lot of HR departments.
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