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Old 10-28-2016, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Fleron270
Absolutely. We will still be here. He will just probably stay at the bottom, seniority wise. Good things could still happen, you never know.

Hope so too!


Thanks for the fast update. Hoping good things happen for you guys. You never know in this business. Hang in there! Below is what I posted recently on another thread about United hiring projections.


From last Friday's Flight Ops Update.

New hires and leave returns 2016 - 550

New hires planned for 2017 - 1106

New hires planned for 2018 - 1236

Number of new Captains - 450 (unsure of the timeline didn't say)

Number of aircraft we plan to have in 2017 - 767 (vs 739 planned in 2016)

I have been told my several pilots who recently attended captain upgrade training when they visit headquarters in Chicago they have been told in five years:

16000 plus pilots on our seniority list - currently have slightly more then 12,500.

220 additional mainline aircraft.

Yes they may be overly optimistic but it's a very good sign. While today it's very competitive to get a legacy job, I predict in 5 years the Legacies will be dealing with the same type of pilot shortage the Regionals are facing today.
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Old 10-28-2016, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by el jefe
We are loosing more than we are hiring. 20 FO left vs possibly 3-5 hired?

I would expect downgrades with the coming realignment notice from LGA closing and total systemwide departures decreasing.
I am still in amazement they can even get 1 person to come here. I mean truly. Unless you are so new to the regional world and have not done any research, I just can't understand *** you would take the chance. Everyone pays more than us now (for the most part) except maybe Mesa.

Outside of the lifers not leaving, I hope everyone that can/wants to leave gets out ASAP and that this place starts getting sued by AA for not being able to fulfill their obligations.

It is complete BS to give all this crap about "Our TEAM, We are in this together, We are family..." blah blah blah and yet say literally not ONE word about anything.
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Old 10-28-2016, 07:16 AM
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Apparently there is a "big announcement" at endeavor on Monday for those who are interested. People saying either topping envoy or flow to delta.
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Old 10-28-2016, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Apparently there is a "big announcement" at endeavor on Monday for those who are interested. People saying either topping envoy or flow to delta.
AWAC'ers are pretty pessimistic about "Big Announcements" lol

I'm hoping the Monday thing includes the $10,000 training completion bonus.
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Old 10-28-2016, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
Apparently there is a "big announcement" at endeavor on Monday for those who are interested. People saying either topping envoy or flow to delta.
Maybe they are buying AWAC
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Old 10-28-2016, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lalo
Maybe they are buying AWAC
HA. Believe what you want, but there is no intrinsic value in buying an airline for the pilot group. You would grossly overpay for awac to simply "buy" the pilots.
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Originally Posted by whoooooooocares
HA. Believe what you want, but there is no intrinsic value in buying an airline for the pilot group. You would grossly overpay for awac to simply "buy" the pilots.
Oh, I don't believe this. I thought we were all taking wild shots in the dark.
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Old 10-28-2016, 12:35 PM
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Oh, I don't believe this. I thought we were all taking wild shots in the dark.
Oh, my mistake.
I hear Southwest connection with flow will be announced late December.
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Old 10-28-2016, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by whoooooooocares
Oh, my mistake.
I hear Southwest connection with flow will be announced late December.
Haha. Maybe so! Actually, this is my favorite thing about SWA- no BS B-scale, contract airlines. Not that I'd turn a job down at AA, DAL, or UAL....
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Old 10-29-2016, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by whoooooooocares
Oh, my mistake.
I hear Southwest connection with flow will be announced late December.
Now that is hilarious.
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