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Old 09-21-2016, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tester130
Thank you Fleron...ORF could be doable for a few months so long as I could get to DCA pretty quick. It looks like there are quite a few flights between the two.
Orf is pretty uncommuntable as it can get. There is typically 2-4 flights a day on American. Most trips start before 6am and end after the last flights have left. It would almost be easier to drive the 3 hours. The major reason first officers are gaining seniority at all lately is becuase of first officers leaving for other companies.

None the less not sure why you wanna come here when half the first officers will probably have resigned come march.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by whoooooooocares
I believe you're correct, however I do think we are able to voice our opinion; if there is enough strength and unity in said opinion it is possible to persuade those who are able to create change to do so.

Loa's have a direct impact on our ability to hire and retain numbers in our seniority list. They effectively nullify language in our contract that seems clear and defining. One has to dig to the back of the contract and find specifics that relate to previous language in the contract.
Yeah I wouldn't expect our guys to agree to anything that hurts us but I guess we will soon find out. I'm more worried about this "management instructor" scam that sounds like some type of off contract scab labor.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:05 AM
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I always advocate for collegiality among our flying sister/brethren...but we all know our schedules suck and while across the system there are shared spaces.... sometimes you need a place to call your own...away from zombie passengers asking if they are at the right gate and OAL crew *****ing about their crappy jobs...we should be able to ***** about ours #Unfiltered... especially if you company doesn't pay for much but at least pays for a crew room.
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
None the less not sure why you wanna come here when half the first officers will probably have resigned come march.
Wisconsin is lower on the list given what other regionals are offering now to attract new hires, but I'm not free until the spring so I'm keeping an open mind as many things will change between now and then.
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Old 09-21-2016, 10:04 AM
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Probably because they've been in business for a long time. Probably because they have loyal employee's that have been with them for a long time. Probably because they're are many that don't want to start all over at another airline. Many factors with 'hope' being one of them also.

Your understanding of the English language is stunning. I love how you say "probably because they're are many that don't want to start over" (They're is a contraction for they are)

The correct statement would have been "because there are many that don't want to start over" You used the wrong version of there/their/they're. This leaves you looking like an uneducated pirate or someone with a stutter.

Referencing my previous post about you being the creepy guy that graduates high school and returns to hang out. I wish you would return to high school and work on your writing skills. In the end I don't much care for you because you reflect poorly on our profession. I ask that you either get your act together or stop posting all together.

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Old 09-21-2016, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by FL451
In the end I don't much care for you because you reflect poorly on our profession. I ask that you either get your act together or stop posting all together.
That's great! However if I want your opinion I'll give it you.
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ChipChelios
Yeah I wouldn't expect our guys to agree to anything that hurts us but I guess we will soon find out. I'm more worried about this "management instructor" scam that sounds like some type of off contract scab labor.
I think those that get to chime in on this matter will make the or rectangular decision for the pilot group. I k more concerned with current Loa's that exist that take away specific language in the contract now. These are hurting us right now and need to be removed from the next contract.

There are concessionary loa's that needed to be removed. We are no longer in a concessionary market and something like this can be easily overlooked. It will take another ten years+ before we have an opportunity to remove it if we don't act now.
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Old 09-21-2016, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by whoooooooocares
I think those that get to chime in on this matter will make the or rectangular decision for the pilot group. I k more concerned with current Loa's that exist that take away specific language in the contract now. These are hurting us right now and need to be removed from the next contract.

There are concessionary loa's that needed to be removed. We are no longer in a concessionary market and something like this can be easily overlooked. It will take another ten years+ before we have an opportunity to remove it if we don't act now.
What LOAs are you speaking of and what are the issues?
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Old 09-21-2016, 05:22 PM
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What LOAs are you speaking of and what are the issues?
Yeah, where did you guys hear about this?
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Old 09-21-2016, 06:02 PM
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Reading through the one I thought was an issue, I was mistaken. My apologies. I didn't mean to stir the pot. I miss understood and got some misinformation trying to clear it up.
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