ChipChelios

Hey Old man...I, like some others read thru this crap to keep our ear to the streets so to speak about the goings on in the business.

When we read useless senseless drivel authored by self proclaimed experts such as yourself it only promotes the typical negative nature of the usual discussions around here. Do you have anything worthy of your time to post? More importantly, do you have anything worthy of my time to read?

If you been around the block a few times like your name implies then you know damn well today's golden boys are tomorrow's red headed step children and today's red headed stepchildren are tomorrow's golden boys. That's how they play it. So if your today's golden boy?...show some class and ease up on the sarcasm toward the red headed stepchildren.

Paid2fly

They probably don't want to take a chance of having to fly with you.

billyho

Probably because they've been in business for a long time. Probably because they have loyal employee's that have been with them for a long time. Probably because they're are many that don't want to start all over at another airline. Many factors with 'hope' being one of them also.

Einstein2014

I agree, plus this is an intelligent group overall. Lots of people working here have advanced degrees or other careers to fall back to. The education of the workforce allows for a more rational decision making process. This creates more of a proactive group rather than reactive. We all have our doubts, but it's too early to cash out. This investment could pay off or may wipe your account clean so to speak , however the signs aren't quite there yet. The market it is still good for everyone overall in one form or another. Yep even I am sitting on the edge of my seat wondering what to do and when to cut my loses.

chrisreedrules

I know you're losing a lot of guys every month but I still think there is a light at the end of the tunnel somewhere. No one can up and replace your lift overnight. But, it is possible that your management is just letting the airline organically shrink with attrition and parking a few more airplanes here and there. I still think they'll dangle some shiny new 900s in front of you at some point.

WhiskeyDelta

Rational thoughts...who are you and why did you hack billyho's APC account?!

Einstein2014

Very plausible.

sweetholyjesus

Yes park a few in the desert where no one can see them being painted with Delta colors. You heard it first here!

On a more serious note the employees need to make steps to ensure they can feed themselves, at some point. I know several people who are waiting for T-minus one year. However if AWAC and AA are still at the table, the pay raises at the WOs actually puts AWAC in a better bargaining position. So many things to consider..

prex8390

Let's be real. We can be replaced. Envoy signing that new deal is gonna attract a lot of pilots. A lot of pilots. The other wholy owns can sign something too and attract pilots. We might crap on psa but look at the kind of hiring they did in 2013-2014 when they had quick upgrades. For every person looking for good insurance and a nice company, there are 15 chasing an upgrade and shiny new planes. Envoy is looking at having record setting classes at the company. Add some hiring and some planes. That and downsize the express fleet or distribute flying among psa pdt and rah and even Mesa, we have nothing Our 60 something airplanes can't be brought to elsewhere. Hell even add mainline into that mix too. many people make us out to be like Skywest doing delta or united type of flying with hundreds of aircraft. We are not doing all too much. 65 planes worth of flying can easily be distributed among 5 other companies. All it takes is a little of scheduling PFM on the computer

BlueSkiesAhead

I have to agree. I don't really know why people are still saying that we "can't be replaced" by someone else. The reality is that we are down to a little over 600 pilots on property now. At least half of those would just move on to another regional if the doors closed tomorrow. That leaves around 300 pilots to be filled somewhere. In the grand scheme of things, that isn't much at all. We are very much replaceable, and I think AA has shown that with their extra incentive for typed CRJ pilots to make the jump to PSA.