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09-14-2016, 07:26 AM

#3281

Junkyard Dog

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Originally Posted by Otterbox

It's all one big plot to gain control of AWAC crew rooms

That and you know, to recruit pilots otherwise bound for the top paying regionals...

I've noticed many PDT pilots hanging out in the crew rooms a lot. I guess they don't fly much.

09-14-2016, 07:53 AM

#3282

highflyer0685

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It blows my mind how we have any FOs left. If I were still an FO I'd be long gone by now, even now as a junior CA it's tempting to abandon this sinking ship. Wonder how many FOs will leave now with these new pay rates at the WO?? This company better do something quick or it'll be too late

09-14-2016, 08:00 AM

#3283

lalo

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Dog

ORF is junior so I see no problems holding it. My advice is to live in base since ORF is not a commuter friendly base. As a RSV FO, you'll be flying quite a bit. The company is severely short FOs. They're also short CAs but can't expend the FOs to go to training until they can get more FOs online. We have many FOs bailing because of lengthy upgrade times and an unknown future is just less than a year an a half. As for health insurance and other benefits, the health care is very good. Our flight benefits are no longer good but bearable.
As a RSV FO, you're guaranteed 12 days off a month and from I've been shown, there's plenty of open time. I have found our training dept is willing and will do whatever they can, within reason, to help a new hire get through training
The only drawback is the uncertain future.

But you'll only be here 6-12 months before being picked up by a major... Haven't seen any of the F-18 guys that I've met lately.

09-14-2016, 08:11 AM

#3284

sweetholyjesus

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Originally Posted by highflyer0685

I'm not surprised our hiring is slow, but I think year 2+ guys have pretty good QOL and would rather try to move up versus move over, while there's still some time left. It only takes a month or two to move over, so there's no huge rush. Yet.

09-14-2016, 08:23 AM

#3285

prex8390

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Originally Posted by highflyer0685

Don't even want to go to a WO, other places that are equally as good.

09-14-2016, 08:27 AM

#3286

prex8390

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Morbo

Sorry in advance for asking stupid questions. Background: I'm a Navy pilot planning to get out and considering my options. I haven't flown for a year and a half since the Navy "offered" me a "career-broadening experience".

How is quality of life for a new FO? How many days off a month is realistic for a new FO? Is it easy to ORF out of training?

QOL for a reserve guy in Orf isn't bad. You'll get a lot of day trips and MX flights. Followed by a double deadhead back. That's kind of the downfall of being at a outstation base. You have to fly to a hub and then go from there. You'll see a lot of flights picking up where commuters couldn't make it to Orf and then get off and deadhead via Clt or PHL back home. Trips usually start before 6am and end after 7pm and the last flights usually leave around 5-6 pm since its a somewhat of a quieter airport. So both ends end up being uncommuteable. But the crews in Orf are great; they have a little bit a different reputation than the rest of the bases. More of a "social type" I should say. A lot of people say it's a big clique there with crews. You'll enjoy it if you live in base.

09-14-2016, 08:45 AM

#3287

Morbo

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Thanks for the insight guys. I live in Norfolk, and my wife has a good job here, so we're not moving for the time being. I'm balancing QOL (living in base) vs. other factors (significantly higher pay, more certain future, etc.) at various regionals.

09-14-2016, 09:27 AM

#3288

IFLYACRJ

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daOldMan

This new pay scale for the WO will be the death of AWAC. They are trying to attract AWAC pilots to come and work for Envoy and PDT.

$55,000 first year pay, and $130,000 in the first three years.

Correct me if I'm wrong. $55K first year and $130K in the first three years? Before taxes? This results in years 2 And 3 ta $37.5K à year. So great first year pay and then a paycut?
What am I not seeing here?

09-14-2016, 09:30 AM

#3289

IFLYACRJ

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Dog

I've noticed many PDT pilots hanging out in the crew rooms a lot. I guess they don't fly much.

I don't have any issue with that. But I do have issues when they just come in and sprawl out on the couches not leaving any room for anyone else

09-14-2016, 09:41 AM

#3290

daOldMan

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Originally Posted by IFLYACRJ

That was a typo. It is $170,000 in the first three years.

And yes, all pay is before taxes. But, you also get per diem, which is not counted in any of these. You also get $3,000 in hotels.