How much does commuting suck
04-06-2023, 06:26 PM
#12
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What class date did SkyWest give you? I ask because when I got hired at AirWis years ago it took my class almost 4 months from day one of indoc to last day of IOE because of traffic jams in the training pipeline. If SkyWest can give you a class date in the next 6 months, just keep working wherever you are now. AirWis training is not impossible by any means but it’s also far from easy. Why would you want to put yourself through that just to quit shortly after?
04-06-2023, 06:28 PM
#13
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04-06-2023, 06:33 PM
#14
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Honesty ad integrity is what you do when no one is looking. Think about that.
04-06-2023, 07:42 PM
#15
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If you're asking if absorbing the company training that could have been given to an honest employee who intended to stay, enhancing your resume with a new type rating, then failing to give any service in return and jumping ship is frowned upon, it really sounds like you're asking if you can perform an act of dishonor without looking bad. Kind of like asking if you steal something, will anyone give you a hard time?
Honesty ad integrity is what you do when no one is looking. Think about that.
Honesty ad integrity is what you do when no one is looking. Think about that.
04-06-2023, 08:01 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Jan 2021
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If you're asking if absorbing the company training that could have been given to an honest employee who intended to stay, enhancing your resume with a new type rating, then failing to give any service in return and jumping ship is frowned upon, it really sounds like you're asking if you can perform an act of dishonor without looking bad. Kind of like asking if you steal something, will anyone give you a hard time?
Honesty ad integrity is what you do when no one is looking. Think about that.
Honesty ad integrity is what you do when no one is looking. Think about that.
This type of behavior is being rewarded in the industry. Tbh it probably has always been rewarded we just hadn’t noticed because the hiring wasn’t as crazy as today.
To the original poster. Go to Air Wisconsin and then apply to Sun County the hour after you receive your ATP and type rating from AW.
08-05-2023, 09:15 AM
#17
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 244
If you're asking if absorbing the company training that could have been given to an honest employee who intended to stay, enhancing your resume with a new type rating, then failing to give any service in return and jumping ship is frowned upon, it really sounds like you're asking if you can perform an act of dishonor without looking bad. Kind of like asking if you steal something, will anyone give you a hard time?
Honesty ad integrity is what you do when no one is looking. Think about that.
Honesty ad integrity is what you do when no one is looking. Think about that.
08-05-2023, 09:47 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: RJ CA (does it really matter)
Posts: 198
Commuting sucks
everyone is now doing it. Fewer flights, more commuters has made it extremely difficult to do.
I loved my time at AW and I would have stayed had the commute not been so unbearable. I got tired of either coming in the day before, or not being able to go home until the day after. Or I’d have to leave early AM on the first flight on day 1 and come home the last flight on day 4. Then I’d have to hope for no maintenance or weather delays. Then I’d have a jumpseat only for one with a higher priority come along and bump me off at the last minute.
my advice would, if you can, live in base and avoid commuting if you can.
everyone is now doing it. Fewer flights, more commuters has made it extremely difficult to do.
I loved my time at AW and I would have stayed had the commute not been so unbearable. I got tired of either coming in the day before, or not being able to go home until the day after. Or I’d have to leave early AM on the first flight on day 1 and come home the last flight on day 4. Then I’d have to hope for no maintenance or weather delays. Then I’d have a jumpseat only for one with a higher priority come along and bump me off at the last minute.
my advice would, if you can, live in base and avoid commuting if you can.
08-06-2023, 12:41 PM
#19
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 39
Yup... Commuting Sucks!
That being said I have just passed 1 year at AW and have commuted St Louis to MKE pretty much the entire time (my first month after IOE I was sitting reserve at ORD). For me, moving to MKE was not an option, so I stay in hotels when I need to. My worst month was last December when I spent about $800 on hotels. Since then I have been a lineholder at MKE and I don't think I have had to pay for more than 2 hotels in a month. This was because a decent portion of my assigned trips started or ended with a deadhead to/from ORD (which I would ask to be released from) and for those that don't a decent number of them would have another FO deadheading to/from ORD so I would reach out and ask if there was interest in a trade...
So yeah, commuting sucks, but there are ways of improving the suck.
That being said I have just passed 1 year at AW and have commuted St Louis to MKE pretty much the entire time (my first month after IOE I was sitting reserve at ORD). For me, moving to MKE was not an option, so I stay in hotels when I need to. My worst month was last December when I spent about $800 on hotels. Since then I have been a lineholder at MKE and I don't think I have had to pay for more than 2 hotels in a month. This was because a decent portion of my assigned trips started or ended with a deadhead to/from ORD (which I would ask to be released from) and for those that don't a decent number of them would have another FO deadheading to/from ORD so I would reach out and ask if there was interest in a trade...
So yeah, commuting sucks, but there are ways of improving the suck.
08-06-2023, 01:13 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Dec 2022
Posts: 71
I commute to DFW for a different company, and it’s not awesome. As if sitting in the back of airplane isn’t bad enough already, having the stress of “will I make this flight?” sucks. And when you have that, you take an earlier flight to be safe. But there went half of your day off, to get to work.
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