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Old 04-14-2020, 12:38 PM
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The same people who voted for Karofsky in Wisconsin are the same people who want to shelter indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by WhiskyWhisky
The same people who voted for Karofsky in Wisconsin are the same people who want to shelter indefinitely.

No one wants to shelter indefinitely. Where are you getting this from?
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Originally Posted by Escargot
For all the shelter in place folks out there, I'm really curious:

When do you think it will be acceptable to leave?

If there's no cure for another 12-18 months, that means shelter in place until then. Otherwise it's all for nought, because people are going to catch the virus and die.

Is that what you are prepared to do? Is that what we as a society are prepared to do? Can we make it that long? Won't "essential activities" just wind up spreading it anyway?

I'm honestly curious what you think.
First off, I think the most honest answer is I don't know and I'd defer to those who are experts in the field. Most of them seem to think that there is a range of options but even economists will tell you that nothing will get better unless the illness is controlled because it is all about consumer confidence.

If you overwhelm the health system, it will be bad for the economy ultimately because it will shatter consumer confidence, and that is not good. A controlled, measured return toward some more commerce is probably the way to go. Coupled with made testing, tracing and intense research.

The economy is not bad because we are slowing it down, it is bad because there is a pandemic on our hands. It is not a choice between health and economy, it is a choice between no economy and bad health, and no economy and good health. Which do you think will give us a shot at a bounce back? My admittedly peanut gallery view is the latter is better.
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Old 04-14-2020, 12:52 PM
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First off, I think the most honest answer is I don't know and I'd defer to those who are experts in the field. Most of them seem to think that there is a range of options but even economists will tell you that nothing will get better unless the illness is controlled because it is all about consumer confidence.

If you overwhelm the health system, it will be bad for the economy ultimately because it will shatter consumer confidence, and that is not good. A controlled, measured return toward some more commerce is probably the way to go. Coupled with made testing, tracing and intense research.

The economy is not bad because we are slowing it down, it is bad because there is a pandemic on our hands. It is not a choice between health and economy, it is a choice between no economy and bad health, and no economy and good health. Which do you think will give us a shot at a bounce back? My admittedly peanut gallery view is the latter is better.
I find it hilarious that any time the media or the FAA puts out a hint of criticism about a pilot we all yell unfair and how they’re not pilots and they can’t understand, but when leading experts in the medical field are giving recommendations all of a sudden pilots become world leading epidemiologists.
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Right, but if you reopen everything, the people that aren’t scared will return to the businesses that are currently closed. Any number of customers is greater than zero.
Do people not understand what’s going on? Good testing is in place. Fatality rate is still almost 4 percent. This ain’t no joke. If it gets loosened up now it’s gonna get exponentially worse. Do yourself and everyone else a favor. Sit tight. Social distance. Wash your hands. Don’t touch your face. Stay home.
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I did not realize there were so many MD's moonlighting as professional pilots. It's not just the regional threads though...many posts in the major threads will have you hoping that their critical thinking is better on the flight deck than what is projected here.
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Three conditions:

1 - rapid and frequent testing and quarantine of any infected individual.

2 - a treatment that works early and quickly on an outpatient basis.

3 - widespread vaccine. as in small pox or polio.


Originally Posted by Escargot
For all the shelter in place folks out there, I'm really curious:

When do you think it will be acceptable to leave?

If there's no cure for another 12-18 months, that means shelter in place until then. Otherwise it's all for nought, because people are going to catch the virus and die.

Is that what you are prepared to do? Is that what we as a society are prepared to do? Can we make it that long? Won't "essential activities" just wind up spreading it anyway?

I'm honestly curious what you think.
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Old 04-14-2020, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Three conditions:

1 - rapid and frequent testing and quarantine of any infected individual.

2 - a treatment that works early and quickly on an outpatient basis.

3 - widespread vaccine. as in small pox or polio.
I agree, but you only need 2 out of those 3
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Originally Posted by RAHkid94
I find it hilarious that any time the media or the FAA puts out a hint of criticism about a pilot we all yell unfair and how they’re not pilots and they can’t understand, but when leading experts in the medical field are giving recommendations all of a sudden pilots become world leading epidemiologists.
​​​​ Uhm, my first sentence said that I don't really know...so idk who you think is claiming to be a leading epidemiologist
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
​​​​ Uhm, my first sentence said that I don't really know...so idk who you think is claiming to be a leading epidemiologist
I agree with you, the reply was more of a “I’d like to expand on the point you’re making”.

I was talking about all the people disagreeing with the doctors and scientists, not you.
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