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Old 04-18-2020, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
Why would the old or those with health issues become homeless and die by staying away from the general public? Explain that one to me now.
Because they won't be able to buy food. Asking the "vulnerable" to self isolate doesn't work.
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
Because they won't be able to buy food. Asking the "vulnerable" to self isolate doesn't work.
Really, cause all the elderly I know have been placing grocery orders online and having it delivered without having to get out of their car.


Also if we continue as is with quarantine by your theory they'd already be dead from starvation.
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
Really, cause all the elderly I know have been placing grocery orders online and having it delivered without having to get out of their car.


Also if we continue as is with quarantine by your theory they'd already be dead from starvation.
Actually the issue is more that if more people get the virus in the population, then they are more likely to be exposed one way or the other. Precisely because it is very difficult to stay completely isolated (the need for groceries, medicine, supplies) the more virus there is in the economy, the more likely they are to get it. Many old and at risk individuals aren't able to pay a premium to have others shop for them.

​​The best way to protect them is try and reduce the total amount of virus in the population.
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Old 04-18-2020, 11:51 AM
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Actually the issue is more that if more people get the virus in the population, then they are more likely to be exposed one way or the other. Precisely because it is very difficult to stay completely isolated (the need for groceries, medicine, supplies) the more virus there is in the economy, the more likely they are to get it. Many old and at risk individuals aren't able to pay a premium to have others shop for them.

​​The best way to protect them is try and reduce the total amount of virus in the population.
And it's become evident that it's no longer necessary to stay on full lockdown in every part of the country. Hence the medical experts saying open sections back up.

Fyi there are no premiums to order food online and go pick it up. If my 83 year old neighbor at my country property living on social security can do it everyone else can figure it out too.
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Old 04-18-2020, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
And it's become evident that it's no longer necessary to stay on full lockdown in every part of the country. Hence the medical experts saying open sections back up.

Fyi there are no premiums to order food online and go pick it up. If my 83 year old neighbor at my country property living on social security can do it everyone else can figure it out too.
Right. Sure, let's open up sections carefully, I don't disagree. I'm just saying let's be cautious and not assume that's it's all over.
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Old 04-18-2020, 12:35 PM
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Right. Sure, let's open up sections carefully, I don't disagree. I'm just saying let's be cautious and not assume that's it's all over.

I don't think anyone thinks the solution is to spend the next 3 years sheltering in place. But calling to reopen the economy right now is like designating a peeing section in the community swimming pool. For now, we need to be patient and realize we're not experts and this problem is too complicated to just 'common sense' through it. There are literally dozens of companies working on anti virals, vaccines, research, COVID tests, etc because they all realize there's a huge financial windfall to solving a problem that's holding a $20T economy hostage. But right now, it's too early for us to even know what we're up against.
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Old 04-18-2020, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Duffman
I don't think anyone thinks the solution is to spend the next 3 years sheltering in place. But calling to reopen the economy right now is like designating a peeing section in the community swimming pool. For now, we need to be patient and realize we're not experts and this problem is too complicated to just 'common sense' through it. There are literally dozens of companies working on anti virals, vaccines, research, COVID tests, etc because they all realize there's a huge financial windfall to solving a problem that's holding a $20T economy hostage. But right now, it's too early for us to even know what we're up against.
Yep, I agree with most of that for sure.
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Old 04-18-2020, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Duffman
I don't think anyone thinks the solution is to spend the next 3 years sheltering in place. But calling to reopen the economy right now is like designating a peeing section in the community swimming pool. For now, we need to be patient and realize we're not experts and this problem is too complicated to just 'common sense' through it. There are literally dozens of companies working on anti virals, vaccines, research, COVID tests, etc because they all realize there's a huge financial windfall to solving a problem that's holding a $20T economy hostage. But right now, it's too early for us to even know what we're up against.
We’re all in agreement. Pitch trim is scared of some nonexistent boogeyman that wants us to stay inside for 3 years.
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Old 04-18-2020, 12:49 PM
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Also, there is some possibly really good COVID19 news. Keep in mind this study hasn't been peer reviewed and it's relatively small scale, but it indicates that apparently the disease may far more widespread than originally thought, meaning it may not be nearly as lethal. This is potentially really really good news, but until more testing and analysis is complete it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/antibo...ry?id=70206121
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Originally Posted by Duffman
Also, there is some possibly really good COVID19 news. Keep in mind this study hasn't been peer reviewed and it's relatively small scale, but it indicates that apparently the disease may far more widespread than originally thought, meaning it may not be nearly as lethal. This is potentially really really good news, but until more testing and analysis is complete it has to be taken with a grain of salt.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/antibo...ry?id=70206121
Yes, and see I know there are some people that will be out there and say "see it was never so bad, you all are wrong haha" but honestly, like I would never have been happier to be wrong because believe me, I want this all to be over! I hope this leads to more good news.
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