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Old 02-27-2017, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by criticalaoa
It's an interview. Expressjet, commutair all have it.
NOPE, NOT an interview. Simply a preferential selection process. Unlike the SSP with DAL. Which is an interview without the day 2 stuff. See below.

Originally Posted by Aviatormar
Can anyone care to explain how it works? Is it just a straight interview? What's the pass rate?
Nope, just means you'll get the hogan. Pass the Hogan, get an interview. It gets better, see below....

Originally Posted by ejpogo
First you have to pass the Hogan, which is around 80%. Then you have the interview, and this all comes in seniority order. So it may take a while to get to a class date based on this. Overall, I think there was around a 60ish percent pass rate, but you get two shots at the CPP. You also have two shots at getting hired outside of the CPP.
Latest number from XJT's MEC was slightly above 50%.

And that's UP from what the June-August rate was. And there was a TON of good guys that interviewed in that time frame that weren't "accepted". NOT just the old senior guys with an entitled mentality, hadn't interviewed in 20+ years and didn't prep, what have you.
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
What's that suppose to mean. I never spit on another bother's airline. I'm at mesa we have issues at our respective regionals. But so do you and anyone at ANY airline.
Probably the fact that you're working for dirt cheap and undercutting everyone else while doing so. Not the progression that the industry needs.
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by avi8tor614
What's that suppose to mean. I never spit on another bother's airline. I'm at mesa we have issues at our respective regionals. But so do you and anyone at ANY airline.
Exactly what everyone knows it means.
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator
Probably the fact that you're working for dirt cheap and undercutting everyone else while doing so. Not the progression that the industry needs.
Based on your profile (170 FO) it's safe to say you were in High School or maybe even middle school when the whole Mesa sh*t took place. I'm curious, who do you work for? Please tell me its not Republic.
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MKUltra
Good for everyone! United just poached a whole pilot group from American.. the competition for pilots is going to heat up.. more money for all of us!
Competition for pilots? AA is 75% flow, >20% military, and <5% street hire. I'm pretty sure AA will not have a problem filling classes. Over the last 4 years AA had what, three or four AWAC pilots get hire? Yea def some poaching!
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Arliss
ORD is probably done for Xjet. The word I heard is that any base closure would be contingent upon whether AWAC got the rumored United deal, which has come true, and that it would be ORD, not EWR as some speculated.
EWR and ORD are done for XJT.

ORD will go to AWAC and EWR is going to CommutAir.

The XJT closures will be followed by IAH and CLE after ewr and ord.
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by No Lies
EWR and ORD are done for XJT.

ORD will go to AWAC and EWR is going to CommutAir.

The XJT closures will be followed by IAH and CLE after ewr and ord.
Commuting to ORD will be a lot of fun.
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
Amen brother!
What do you reckon is the DOH for pilots who were making more preBK than right now?
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by No Lies
The only reason XJT continues to shrink is due to the fact that Skywest will not let XJT into the contract negotiations. Skywest has the plan to shut down XJT and that is happening. You need to look at Skywest, not UA for the problems at XJT.
I am anything but a company apologist, but, if you think that there is anybody other than UAL pulling on the puppet strings for "inc" you are delusional. I haven't seen the FY16 UAL numbers breakdown for hiring, but FY15 XJT guys had a very substantial new hire presence, good for them!
These deals were hammered out on golf courses all over the world and cemented in the finest strip clubs that shareholder money could provide. They are the land owners and we are the serfs.
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Old 02-27-2017, 01:31 PM
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I think it was clearly not about pilot wages but airframes. AWAC owns half of their feet which have already been depreciated down to scrap value not on a contract, and the leases are up on the other half at the end of 17, offering opportunity to lower the lease rates. Part of XJT's money losing CPA with United is they don't have a good deal leasing the jets they're using.
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