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Actually you appear to be wrong on you assertion. UA takes first Max in 2018. Not sure where you are getting your information but it isn't factual as of today.

UA is launch customer for Max9. Delivery in 2018

threeighteen

The same number that will be reserved for AWAC and CommutAir = ZERO.

CPP at UA doesn't reserve slots at UA. DGI at Delta doesn't reserve slots. There are no reserved slots at any place besides American.

CPP/DGI/Flow is a trap for people who can't see the writing on the wall for the next 3-5 years. American's flow isn't as bad as the other two programs since you don't have to interview again and just have to watch the clock, but it's still a foolish move to make it your primary plan.

How long will they be able to pull their current military percentage before the military pilot pool is reduced down to solely the guys getting out at 10 years vs right now where there is a huge spread of guys between 10 and 20 years getting out? That high military percentage will not last too long.

If they hire off the street, that's one pilot they have to find/recruit/hire.

If they hire a pilot from a regional that flies their feed, they also have to find another pilot to replace him at the regional he just left, which like you said, is hard now, and getting harder.

It's a lot easier to attract someone to work at mainline than it is to keep attracting a continuous feed of new pilots at a regional when there aren't enough to go around, which is why they hang the Flow/CPP/DGI carrot just barely out of reach of the majority of the guys at the regional and only let in a small trickle of regional guys into the mainline millionaires club each year.

What would you do if you were trying to keep your mainline airline AND your regional airline staffed? Hire one pilot or two?

How so?

Street hires and CPP guys have to survive the same interview and meet roughly the same job requirements, and as United drops their requirements, the CPP requirements will probably stay unchanged.

The turndown rates are pretty high too right now.

Flubber

One lease comes up this year. Don't know which tail.

spaaks

If it was illegal why would he say it in writing? Pretty sure you're that dumb. Read the release and email

Day4mx

Billy can't get anything right.

Bgood

So in the end we need each other to create a force not to be reckoned with.

sweetholyjesus

Papa Bear

So pretty much you got 5yrs to get your ducks in a row and find another job...
What is the over under of percentage of guys five years from now will be crying foul about AirWhiskey not getting another extension. I'm saying 70% for the over.

Next thing we will see is a post from a newbie asking what kind of qualifications and work rules you have to get on...in 3 2 1...

schmohawk

It's actually 5 years with an optional 2 year extension

el jefe

I'm astounded by the amount of people badmouthing this new contract we had nothing to do with as a pilot group, and that saved us from losing our jobs next year. Unless you work(ed) at ZW, you don't know how bad morale has been the past few years knowing Feb 2018 was the end. Approx >80% of this pilot group is looking to get on with a bigger airline and didn't want to have to start over at another regional next year.