Originally Posted by
dracir1
So, basically UA has a quicker upgrade time to CA AND a 5 year upgradee receives about $25 / hr more than our proposed 12 CA pay...
And we’re seriously considering this AIP?
Come on, let's use some logic here. UAL has hired in the neighborhood of 3000 pilots in the last 5 years. To think that the 5 year upgrade would even come close to continuing would be completely irrational. The only reason UAL and DAL have a "short" upgrade time is because of a lack of hiring for so many years followed by a hiring spree.
Originally Posted by
CantStayAway
I honestly believe our MEC has our best interest at heart. That said, I also believe they’re either being misguided by ALPA attorneys who just want this done with or they have lost their will to fight. Either way it’s up to the pilots here to set them straight. I honestly don’t believe we will. I expect this turd to pass by at least 65%.
Ummm... what do ALPA attorneys care about hurrying along our contract? Do you even know how our ALPA attorneys are paid? You are posting nonsense.
Originally Posted by
dracir1
The MEC has a dual job. They are union workers and pilots and these negotiations have worn them down more than most. They want a deal - now. What else would you expect them to say if/when they get called about the current AIP - that it's NOT going to pass? That they did a poor job? Trusting their word is no better than trusting mine. I have a feeling this AIP will be voted down significantly. Why?
Because of the below scenarios:
There are 10 construction workers who all do the same job w/ comparable tools in the same work environment. Three construction workers make $100 /hr with great work rules and benefits. Another makes $95 /hr but has even BETTER work rules. Another 2 make about $90 /hr and have decent work rules. Another 3 make $85 / hr and have OK to somewhat bad benefits.
YOU make $55 /hr with decent benefits. During negotiations, your boss offers your $83 /hr but decreases your benefits to somewhat bad.
Also, EVERY OTHER construction worker will negotiate new rates in the future (within 3-5 years) before you do.
Do you take the offer? If so, why? If not, what is a fair wage and benefit package for you to accept?
Who said our benefits are decreasing? What exactly led you to making that statement? Geezus, the amount of misinformation on here is astounding. Get informed, dude.
Originally Posted by
Need a real job
I’d willing to bet:
Your 245 hr and “super work rule, until PBS” vs days off.
Your W2’s will be less than Delta’s about $75,000 in a year. You sell yourself and everybody else short when you vote yes.
If you expected to get Delta pay, no PBS, and improved benefits with this contract.... welll I feel sorry for you and your delusional state of mind.