TonyC

We all have choices to make. We can't expect The Company to put safety first when we vote with our own feet for the less safe options.






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FlybyKnite

You ever try to get an effective nap sitting on the ironing board ?

4A2B

I agree with TonyC on this, until such time that there are enough sleep rooms the simple fact remains that there are rules in place that say you are only eligible for a room if you are on standby or turning. Commuting is a choice and you are in fact "electing" to do more hub turns than are required. I would say we need to police ourselves a little better and if you have a jumper beat feet to the rooms and take one then I recommend contacting ProStan for action.

While we are at it, why do some think it is OK to make up their own parking spots? I know the lot is horrible but there are places to park that are not in the depressions that are actually between the lines of an actual parking place.

Adlerdriver

Wouldn't an attempt to respectfully discuss the situation man to man be a better first step before involving ProStan?

4A2B

sure, but I am guessing most would rather not have that conversation in the hallway as he or she is heading to the rack. Prostan is the same thing IMHO and may actually mean more coming from the ALPA peer source and can't be written off as that guy was just a jerk for calling me out on this. I think it boils down to timing and do you feel comfortable making that engagement, if the answer is no then use prostan.

Huck

Just don't go to management.

FamilyATM

I'm with Tony and 4A2B on this one. I did the Memphis thing for six years and then became a commuter. Having to come up early for my trip that night is my choice. It is also a small price to pay keeping the campers at home happy living where they want to be. Happy wife, first wife, keeps more money in the ATM.

pipe

Everyone here has completely missed the friggin point! This is a Fortune 500 company. There should be recliners and rooms enough for everybody!!!!!

I guess you guys can just keep expecting nothing - and that's what you'll keep on getting.

Pipe

appDude

Pipe - You are correct - There should be enough sleep rooms for all. Do not know if the Company planned for this amount this time, or just got all they could with the limited space or money.

Either way, all rooms should be used every night if someone wants one, but there should be a pecking order that is enforced.

Let me be a computer geek, as you would expect no less.
Let's say the agreed pecking order is:
Airport standby.
Hub turn, working in and out.
FedEx jump to MEM, work outbound.
Work inbound, FedEx jump outbound.
Other.

So the sleep room sign in person types in your employee number and it pops up the kind of room you are getting from VIPS (yes, VIPS knows) and gives you a key. It the changes the remote sign it controls in front of flight coordination, which has a display like:
Hub turn: 22
Work out: 14
Work in: 17
Other: 8
You would know if your kind of room is available and if you would be given a key when you type in your employee number at the sign in room.

The sign in computer would project the number of rooms needed that night for each category. It knows from VIPS the number of hub turners. Some guys never get sleep rooms, they could make a default selection in VIPS to have no room held for them. It knows from VIPS and JS, who would get rooms in the all the remaining categories. It would monitor off times and cancel a room slot when that bird was going to get to MEM too late to need a room. If a very early arrival did not claim the room by say an hour after arrival in MEM, it would cancel that room.

Point is, a smart computer at sign in, could enforce the priority of room availability, yet allow for max room utilization, getting all hub turn, jump in-work out, most of the work in-jump home category rooms and on some nights allowing 'other'.
All transparent to the pilot that has a nice screen at flight coordination to see if it is worth taking the 'walk of shame' back to the sign in desk.
And easy enforcement, as we are our own worst enemies and cannot and should not have to police ourselves on this point.

Huck

Why ain't we all working for you?????

And by the way - the new rooms were authorized to comply with the new fatigue rules. The next step was going to be a "motel" beside the Democrat Lot for the ultra-long-range crews to get their 12 hours of mandatory, onsite rest prior to duty in.

I guess the sleep rooms were started already so they're finishing them.